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子句的種類及句型問題
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有人說 It's terrible that he should walk out on his long-time girl friend. 中 that he should walk out on his long-time girl friend 是虛主詞 it 的同位語 那麼 它是名詞子句嗎?

另外 I'm pleased that he gave me a big birthday gift. 其中的
that he gave me a big birthday gift 又是什麼子句呢?

他們又是主詞動詞五大句型的哪一種句型呢? 似乎沒有文法書討論到

2006/05/24 12:48

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Re: 子句的種類及句型問題
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They are both subordinate clauses.

2006/05/24 12:59

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Re: 子句的種類及句型問題
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Yeah, 如peterlin所述。

My two cents.

例句一
可參考:
2.從屬子句的種類:
(註)連接詞that帶領的名詞子句做主詞時,通常都是置於句尾,另外用 it 填補它的位置,亦即用"it + be/seem 等 + 形容詞/名詞 + that子句"的結構。其中的 it 稱為形式主詞(Formal Subject),that-clause 稱為真正主詞(Real Subject)。
http://www.hosenglish.com/epaper/epaper8.htm

例句二
複句結構,此例句中,that當<從屬連接詞>時用以引導<名詞子句>。
複句 = 主要子句 + 從屬子句 (名詞子句或副詞子句或形容詞子句)
複句:利用疑問詞、從屬連接詞及關係詞將2個或2個以上之單句結合在一起成一個大句子。從屬子句可區分成名詞子句、副詞子句、形容詞子句。

2006/05/24 14:15
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Re: 子句的種類及句型問題
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I have no doubt that these are subordinate clauses, but the point is what kind? A noun clause? An adjective [relative] clause? Or, an adverbial clause?

I also understand that "it" is used as the formal subject. The thing is when we treat the noun clause as the real subject, the clause functions like a noun. Then is it the S? (But "it" is already the S in the sentence.) Now, is it the C? Perhaps not. In each of my examples, there is already a C—“terrible” and “pleased”, respectively.

Basically, both are of the pattern S + V + C. However, where does the that-clause go?

(1) Maybe we can treat the that-clause in "It's terrible that he should walk out on his long-time girl friend." as the appositive of "It", but I'm still confused as far as the pattern thing is concerned.

(2) Maybe we can treat the that-clause in “I'm pleased that he gave me a big birthday gift.” as an adjunct, in which case, it’s more like an adverb. Then we won't have to worry about S or C.

Just my two bits.

2006/05/24 15:26

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WayneCohee, why on Earth would you need to know all this mumble jumble if you spoke English so well already? Grammar is for the syntax challenged, so cut yourself some slack. I've never learned grammar in such detail, yet I speak English all my life, go figure.

2006/05/24 16:01

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English is supposed to be a tool to get your point across, not something to rack your brain out. I bet ya that 80% of North Americans won't have a clue what you're talking about.

2006/05/24 16:15

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Re: 子句的種類及句型問題
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引文:

peterlin 寫道:
English is supposed to be a tool to get your point across, not something to rack your brain out. I bet ya that 80% of North Americans won't have a clue what you're talking about.


I very much understand what you're saying. It's like a foreigner who asks us a Chinese usage/grammar question, and 80% of us don't have a clue.

Frankly, this is one of the best English-learning web site I've ever seen. Please understand it's not that I'm cruising for trouble. I hate it when I can't explain it to my Chinese students. Besides, I myself am curious and want to know the answer. I think it's worth discussing and might find an answer here.

2006/05/24 21:22

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Re: 子句的種類及句型問題
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Now now, we want our members feel welcome, not awkard~~

Wayne, I apologize for peter. I know peter doesn' mean any harm, but he can work on his tone a little bit.

Two years ago I was like peter -- I told a guy on a forum about the same thing. He told me, not in anger but a bit accusatory, that he really wanted to know and asked me if it was wrong to ask such a question.

Different people have different need. I soon learned.

2006/05/24 22:38
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Dear Wayne,

您所謂的5大句型, 應該是指5個 [基本句型] 吧.
除了 [基本句型] 之外
實際上的句型分類可能要多出許多......
至少我查閱 Dr.eye 中的 [句型] [句型寶典] 等單元,
就列示不少句型分類及說明
供參考參考唄~~~
Hope it helps.

2006/05/24 23:08
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Dear Wayne,

例句二 I'm pleased that he gave me a big birthday gift.
之that子句可視為 [副詞子句] 修飾 pleased
如同以下之例句2 所示 <>
希望對您有所助益~~~

1. (引導名詞子句)
He expressed the hope that we would keep in touch with his firm.
他表示希望我們與他的公司保持聯繫。
My idea is that we should act on his suggestion.
我的意見是我們應當按照他的建議去辦。
That she is still alive is a relief.
她還活著,這是令人感到寬慰的。
2. (引導副詞子句,表示原因或理由)因為,由於
We are glad that we have accomplished another arduous task.
我們都感到高興因為又完成了一項艱鉅的任務。
3. (引導副詞子句,表示目的或結果)為了,以至於
He is working hard that he can catch up with the class.
他努力用功,以便趕上班上同學。
4. (引導表示願望,感歎的子句,主句常省略)
That I could stay at home today!
今天要是我能待在家裡多好呀!

2006/05/25 08:24
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